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NAXX 25 HEROIC ON SUNDAY AND MONDAY 19:00 SERVER TIME!!!!!!!!! tUESDAY WE DO OBSIDIUM SANCTUM 25 MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Post by Halibell Wed May 20, 2009 4:49 pm

    I’ll give some pointers on stats gearing up weapon and poison use and link some very useful sites. Cause we should outdps all the other weakling classes in the raid!!
    Note that this is mostly about pve, though not exclusively.
    Go to http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14133213611&sid=1
    For a very complete guide on rogues, most of whats below I copied from it =D
    Though the builds on it are for 3.1 so you’ll have to modify those

    WEAPONS/POISONS (it’s different for mutilate I think..)
    -Use the weapon which has the highest maximum damage (2.2 – 2.8 weapon speed) in
    your mainhand because that’s the weapon you use for your special attack
    -In your offhand a fast weapon is prefferable (something like 1.6), this because your
    the poison you apply will outdamage the actual damage you do with the sword itself
    -Wound / Instant Poison on your mainhand. Deadly Poison on your offhand.
    On a boss like Gluth in naxx use anesthetic because he enrages a lot!
    Always carry a stack of every poison there is.

    ATTACKS
    In pve you always got to have your Slice‘n Dice running, not matter what build you are!
    If SnD is running you can use rupture.
    Only if both of these are running, or if the mob/boss is near death you use evisc/envenom

    STATS

    - Attack Power (AP),
    - Hit Rating,
    - Crit Rating,
    - Expertise,
    - Haste and
    - Armor Penetration

    Don't drop below special attack hitcap (66 or 99); beyond that stack Whatever Works Best, which will usually be Agility or straight AP. There is no “1 true list” of stat ranking, technically you could break it down to ~40 primary and secondary/derived stats for the 3 raidbuilds, and they all rank somewhere between ~1 AP and ~2 AP, depending on what exactly your build is, what your other stats are (ie: your gear) and what exactly happens in a fight.

    Generally speaking
    - Strong Stats: Hit Rating (Specials Cap) > AP ~Agility
    - Average Stats: Expertise ~ Hit Rating (Poison Cap) > Crit Rating ~ Armor
    Penetration ~ Haste Rating

    Following numbers assume 5/5 Precision:
    • 722 Hit Rating to cap dual-wield melee autoattack
    • 315 Hit Rating to cap poisons application
    • 237 Hit Rating to cap poisons application, with Improved Fairy Fire or Misery on the target
    • 99 Hit Rating to cap Special attacks

    GEAR

    If you’re having a hard time deciding what piece of gear is better use this site
    http://www.shadowpanther.net/
    it has all the information you need on rogue gear, very useful!

    ADDONS
    There are some very useful addons for us rogues
    Stunwatch, gives a cast bar for how long the stun is running
    http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/stunwatch.aspx
    DiscoDice, usefull in keeping tracking your running abilties and showing which cooldowns are available.
    http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/disco-dice-fanupdate/download/323013.aspx
    Skada, damage meter..
    http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/skada.aspx
    Sofar I havent been able to find a working threat meter, pls let me know when you find one!
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    Post by Halibell Wed May 20, 2009 7:28 pm

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    Post by Gothik Wed May 20, 2009 10:24 pm

    Great work mate !

    It took time to write this, but it will help the rogues in our guild.
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    Post by Halibell Wed May 20, 2009 11:24 pm

    hehe took some time yeh, but not the text, like i said I mostly copy/paste from the sites. they're alot better at explaining it than me Smile

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